THRIVE: YOUR AGENCY RESOURCE
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THRIVE: YOUR AGENCY RESOURCE
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EP 36: Relaunching Your Agency Website, with Christina Hagopian
On this episode of THRIVE—sponsored by Workamajig —Kelly is joined by Christina Hagopian, President and Creative Director of Hagopian Ink in a candid discussion about her experience in overhauling her own agency’s website. They talk about making yourself a client, her lessons and takeaways from the process, and advice for other agency leaders planning to redesign their site in 2019.
EP 35: Alternative Agency Partnership Models, with Patrick Smith
On this episode of THRIVE—now sponsored by Workamajig —Kelly explores unique and alternative partnership models for agencies with Patrick Smith of C2 Creative Studio in Chicago. Patrick shares his story and experience in creating partnerships that add value without adding overhead in order to produce the best work and results for clients.
EP 34: How to Disqualify Agency Prospects, with Dave Fischer
On this episode of THRIVE—sponsored by Workamajig —Kelly talks with sales coach Dave Fischer about how and why agency leaders should disqualify prospects during their business development process. Dave shares great tips and insights as to how to navigate early discussions with potential clients for your agency.
EP 33: Sales Openers vs. Closers for Agencies, with Dan Morris
On this episode of THRIVE—sponsored by Workamajig —Kelly and Dan Morris of Mindracer Consulting talk about the “sales opener” mindset for business development at creative, media and technology agencies. They go in-depth on why and how to pair a strong opener with an established closer to seal more ideal deals.
EP 32: Better Presentations for Winning New Business, with Pat Quinn
On this episode of THRIVE—sponsored by Workamajig—Kelly’s joined by presentation coach, Pat Quinn, as they cover how speakers can effectively communicate their message for the greatest impact. Pat shares some best practices—how to train your audience (prospects), set momentum and gain clarity for executing the perfect pitch.
EP 31: Top 3 Contractual Gaps for Agencies, with Sharon Toerek
On this episode of THRIVE—sponsored by Workamajig—Kelly talks with Sharon Toerek of Legal + Creative, an IP and marketing law firm for agencies. They dive into MSAs versus short-form Terms & Conditions, Independent Contractor Agreements, and Digital Influencer Agreements for liability protection and FCC compliance.
EP 30: The Power of Positioning, with David C. Baker
On this episode of THRIVE—sponsored by Workamajig —Kelly and David C. Baker talk about their shared favorite topic: agency positioning. They discuss the holistic foundation and myriad benefits of strong positioning for creatives within the context of David’s latest book, The Business of Expertise: How Entrepreneurial Experts Convert Insight Into Impact + Wealth, available at www.expertise.is.
EP 29: Righting Client Relationships, with Jodi Katz
On this episode of THRIVE—now sponsored by Workamajig —Kelly chats with Jodi Katz of Base Beauty Creative Agency about righting a pivotal client relationship and how that changed her view on everything. They dive into mutual accountability, being open to feedback, and having empathy to understand one another’s underlying human needs.
EP 28: Demystifying Profitability, with Ryan Watson
On this episode of THRIVE—sponsored by Workamajig —Kelly demystifyies profitability with her guest Ryan Watson, Founder of Upsourced Accounting, a financial firm exclusively for creative agencies. They talk about all of the levers needed to move margin in the right direction, as opposed to focusing on lagging indicators.
EP 27: Onboarding Clients for Mutual Success, with Sara Bacon
On this episode of THRIVE—sponsored by Workamajig —Kelly chats with Sara Bacon, CEO of Command C, an e-commerce and conversion optimization agency. They dive into the importance of proper onboarding for project success and share a few best practices, as well as discuss setting up a mutually respectful relationship between agency and client.
EP 26: Self-Leadership Changes Agencies, with Scott Jeffrey
On this episode of THRIVE—now sponsored by Workamajig —Kelly talks with Scott Jeffrey about internal development and self-awareness practices and for agency owners. They discuss how the thoughts and behaviors of leaders impact agency culture, communication and more. Get ready for a great discussion on self-actualization, specifically for agency leaders!
EP 25: Immediate Conversations, Not Forms, with Dan Murphy
On this episode of THRIVE—sponsored by Workamajig —Kelly talks with Dan Murphy of Drift about getting to meaningful interactions with prospects faster in order to increase sales. They discuss how live chat and AI-based web technology can qualify prospective clients on your site and send them through the correct funnel. If you’re interested in converting more warm prospects, check out drift.com/thrive.
EP 24: What is Compassionate Management, with Rena DeLevie
On this episode of THRIVE—now sponsored by Workamajig —Kelly is joined by Rena DeLevie of Management for Millennials to discuss what she calls Compassionate Management. They talk about the great divide between account managers and creatives—and how to find common ground in order to operate a more effective agency and improve overall culture.
EP 23: Identify Unknown Prospects on Your Site, with Carol Luong
On this episode of THRIVE, Kelly talks with Carol Luong, head of business development at Leadfeeder—a lead gen growth hacking platform that identifies unknown prospects on your site, and provides details on referral source, pages navigated, time spent and much more.
Try Leadfeeder for 14 days, no credit card required and no installation required. (You can also request a demo first, if you prefer). Visit leadfeeder.com/thrive
EP 22: Managing Creative Teams, with Karl Sakas
On this episode of THRIVE, Kelly talks with Karl Sakas, fellow agency consultant, executive coach, speaker and author of Made to Lead: A Pocket Guide to Managing Marketing & Creative Teams. They dive into practical management advice for those that are given the opportunity to oversee and support creatives at agencies or within in-house departments.
EP 21: Quiz Marketing for Agency Clients, with Josh Haynam
On this episode of THRIVE, Kelly talks with Josh Haynam, Co-founder of Interact Quiz Builder—which helps agencies create quizzes, assessments, and giveaways for brands to engage with end users. This variation of quiz marketing is far less controversial than the type of quiz used in the Cambridge Analytica scandal! We dive into the psychology behind quizzes and how agencies can drive results for their clients on both websites and social platforms.
EP 20: Social Success for Agencies, with Carrie Kerpen
On this episode of THRIVE, Kelly talks with Carrie Kerpen, Co-founder and CEO of Likeable Media, about content responsibility, the three S’s of success on social, how to determine which platforms are right for a brand, and the importance of active listening online. Carrie gives her Top 3 Tips on how agencies can learn more about their own brand, competitors, and testing different content formats.
EP 19: Creating a Referable Brand, with Michael Roderick
On this episode of THRIVE, Kelly talks with the CEO of Small Pond Enterprises, Michael Roderick, about what a referable brand is and what it means to create a brand that is memorable, easy to understand, and makes people think differently. They dive into memory makers, mnemonic devices, and more.
EP 18: How to Sell and Exit Your Agency, with Jason Liggitt
On this episode of THRIVE, Kelly talks with Jason Liggitt, who has sold not one but two agencies over his twenty year career in creative strategy and brand architecture. Jason and Kelly share their individual experiences, lessons, and tips for a successful sale and exit from a creative agency.
Ep 17: Streamlining Your Entire Agency, with Ron Ause
On this episode of THRIVE, Kelly is joined by Ron Ause, Co-founder of Workamajig—the enterprise solution for streamlining workflows, systems, processes, communications and resources at any creative, media or tech agency. By looking at things holistically, agencies can increase efficiency and profitability.
EP 16: Simple Asks to Scale Your Agency, with Laura Fredricks
On this episode of THRIVE, Kelly talks with Laura Fredricks, J.D., speaker, trainer and author of ‘The Ask’. Laura’s background as an attorney—winning during cross-examinations—coupled with her success in fundraising for nonprofits, evolved into a framework for asking for the things that you want in business and life. For any service-based business owner, this episode is not to be missed!
EP 15: Understanding Prospect Intent (AdWords), with Dr. Darren Carter
On this episode of THRIVE, Kelly is joined by Darren Carter, M.D., Founder & Principal of NYC SEM, an analytics-driven PPC agency. They talk about understanding prospect intent—including the myths of branded search on AdWords, the impact of premature influence on the SERPs, and the importance of negative keywords.
Darren goes in-depth on strategic content marketing via AdWords, re-marketing, exclusions, and more—following the prospect’s intent and interest cadence.
EP 14: Lead Gen for Agencies, with Alex Berman
Kelly is joined by Alex Berman of Experiment 27 in a discussion about lead generation for agencies on this episode of THRIVE | The Agency Scaler Podcast. They talk effective “hands-off inbound marketing” including email outreach, partnerships, content promotion / PR and more. If your agency is looking to understand how to land more of the clients you love, this episode is not to be missed!
Note: Due to a technical issue with audio/video sync, a static photo of Alex Berman is displayed throughout the episode. It won’t happen again!
EP 13: Post-Merger Agency Life, with Marc Sampogna
If you’ve ever wondered what agency life might look like after a merger or acquisition, Kelly and her guest, Marc Sampogna of Canopy Brand Group, provide some insight on this episode of THRIVE | The Agency Scaler Podcast.
They talk about the positives and negatives of entering into such agreements, the importance of culture fit, the new offerings and talent that result from these structural transactions, and what to keep in mind if you’re considering merging with another agency.
EP 12: Creating Change In Your Agency, with Adam Force
On this episode of THRIVE, Kelly talks with Adam Force, founder of Change Creator—the first magazine app for purpose-driven entrepreneurs. Adam shares how to authentically infuse impact and social good into your business model (and retain more of your millennial workforce.)
EP 11: From Cold Email to Close, with Travis Piepho
Kelly talks effective lead generation with Travis Piepho of Prospectr Marketing on this episode of THRIVE | The Agency Scaler Podcast. If you have questions about targeting, segmentation, database cleansing, automation, deliverability, warm vs. cold email messaging and standard conversion rates, tune in!
EP 10: What Makes a Great Agency Website, with Matt Kelley
On this episode of THRIVE | The Agency Scaler Podcast, Kelly chats with UX and interface design expert, Matt Kelley about what makes an agency website great. If your site isn’t working as an intuitive, lead generation asset to your agency, these tips can help turn that around.
EP 9: Balancing Life + Agency Ownership, with DJ Sharad
On this episode of THRIVE | The Agency Scaler Podcast, Kelly talks with CEO of DJUSA, Sharad Bhavnani (better known as DJ Sharad) about balancing life with work when you own a creative agency. If you’re not making time for yourself and family, or you’re having difficulty with prioritization, delegation and managing your time in order to reduce stress, this show offers some great tips from a fellow agency owner who’s making it work every day.
Ep 8: Overcoming Sales Objections, with Kevin Campbell
On this episode of THRIVE | The Agency Scaler Podcast, Kelly discusses how to overcome sales objections like a pro with Kevin Campbell (also known as her brother). Learn how to listen, mirror prospects’ language, and steer sales conversations in your direction toward value—in order to close more new business.
Ep 7: How to Sell Retainers, with Douglas Lim
On this episode of THRIVE | The Agency Scaler Podcast, we go down under as Kelly chats with Douglas Lim, former agency owner in Australia. Learn how to package, pitch and close service offerings to existing and new niche clients in order to create predictable, recurring revenue.
Ep 6: Syncing Expectation with Opportunity (SEO), with Zee Hoffmann Jones
On this episode of THRIVE | The Agency Scaler Podcast, Kelly chats with Zee Hoffmann Jones, Digital Marketing Consultant at Distilled and Blog Contributor for MOZ, about stripping out the geek speak of SEO (search engine optimization). Instead, we focus on the intended function of SEO: syncing human expectation with an organization’s opportunity.
Ep 5: Hyper-Targeted Biz Dev, with Ryan O’Hara
On this episode of THRIVE | The Agency Scaler Podcast, Kelly chats with Ryan O’Hara of LeadIQ about hyper-targeted business development. If you liked Episode 3 on Outbound Growth Hacking, this conversation dives a little deeper, and we also touch upon persuasive techniques to elicit response once you’ve found your ideal prospects.
EP 52: Retaining Clients with Speed to Lead, with Robin Alex
Kelly cuts to the chase with Robin Alex, CEO of Innovate Fast, about what clients want: qualified leads provided to their own business developers in the shortest possible amount of time. They talk about the gap between what marketing agencies do and the wants, impacts and needs of their clients—and how to bridge that in order to increase the longevity of those partnerships.
EP 51: What Makes a Relationship?, with Joe Apfelbaum
On this episode of THRIVE—sponsored by Workamajig —Kelly and Joe Apfelbaum of Ajax Union talk about the components of developing relationships that ultimately lead to new business. They dissect what’s important to each party, how to add real value in order to develop trust, and the role that authenticity plays in the process.
EP 50: Exploring an Agency’s Harmonic Triangle, with Mike Belasco
On this episode of THRIVE—sponsored by Workamajig —Kelly asks Mike Belasco of Inflow about the Harmonic Triangle approach he recently implemented at his e-commerce marketing agency. They talk about why he felt the need to make a dramatic shift, what he’s gained from being authentic (and vulnerable), and how the frameworks actually works. If you’re wondering how or what changes to make in your agency for the benefit of all, this episode is not to be missed.
EP 49: How to Optimize Conversions Before Go-Live, with Nitzan Shaer
On this episode of THRIVE—now sponsored by Workamajig —Kelly chats with Nitzan Shaer of WEVO about the myriad issues with post-launch conversion optimization of websites, micro-sites, landing pages, videos and more. They talk about why merely adhering to best practices in web design is no longer enough.
EP 48: The Evolution of Facebook Advertising, with Kim Barrett
On this episode of THRIVE—now sponsored by Workamajig —Kelly talks with Kim Barrett from Your Social Voice in Perth, Australia about the ever-evolving landscape of Facebook ads. They theorize about why 80% of businesses fail at effective paid media, as well as the most common mistakes made by agencies and in-house teams.
EP 47: Assessing Our Happiness as Agency Owners, with Becky Wang
On this episode of THRIVE—now sponsored by Workamajig —Kelly has a heart to heart with Becky Wang of Crossbeat, a content and innovation studio in New York City. They discuss how we define happiness and the metrics we use to assess it for ourselves as agency leaders. It’s time to get deep.
EP 46: How to Pivot Toward Market Opportunity, with David Title
On this episode of THRIVE—now sponsored by Workamajig —Kelly chats with David Title of Bravo Media. In a world focused on “data versus delight”, opportunity might mean creating market demand instead of responding to it. They also briefly discuss whether or not positioning for industry verticals is as important when the products and services you’re agency provides are pioneering new territory.
EP 45: Training Your Digital Project Managers, with Ben Aston
On this episode of THRIVE—now sponsored by Workamajig —Kelly covers the importance of training your project managers with Ben Aston, Founder of The Digital Project Manager. They discuss the courses, resources and thought leadership articles for DPMs who are involved in waterfall, agile or hybrid methodologies at digital agencies.
EP 44: How Team Trust Inspires Innovation, with Jay Melone
On this episode of THRIVE—now sponsored by Workamajig —Kelly talks team trust with Jay Melone of New Haircut, a digital product strategy and training agency. Jay and Kelly discuss the impact of team dynamics, and how shame and vulnerability push us toward true innovation on behalf of our clients.
EP 43: The Future of Voice Technology in Marketing, with Matthew Gillen
On this episode of THRIVE—now sponsored by Workamajig —Kelly talks voice technology with Matthew Gillen of Voxion, an app development platform for Alexa and Google Home. Matt and Kelly discuss the future of marketing and how agencies can more easily adapt to the emerging needs and demands of their clients’ customers.
EP 42: 5 Non-Closing Reasons to Follow Up, with Dan Morris
On this episode of THRIVE—now sponsored by Workamajig —Kelly talks again with Dan Morris of Mindracer Consulting, a B2B sales enablement consultancy in NYC. Kelly and Dan focus on the top five reasons to reach out to prospects in order to add value; and adding value is what leads to the close.
EP 41: Using Social as a Closing Tool, with Adam Brown
On this episode of THRIVE—now sponsored by Workamajig —Kelly talks with Adam Brown, founder of Sircle Media, a social strategy firm in NYC. Kelly and Adam discuss how agencies can use different variations of content across their social media channels to attract prospects with portfolio work, enabling conversion prior to a conversation.
EP 40: Matching Brands and Agencies, with Robby Berthume
Kelly is joined by Robby Berthume, co-founder of agency collective Bull & Beard. Kelly and Robby talk about the business model for pairing vetted agencies with client needs, and how creative, media and technology agencies can learn more about this unique business development opportunity.
EP 39: Podcasting is the New Networking, with Matt Johnson
On this episode of THRIVE—sponsored by Workamajig —Kelly is joined by Matt Johnson, host of the YouX Podcast and CEO of Pursuing Results, a podcast production agency. Matt and Kelly discuss the power of pods for thought leadership, business development and more for creative agencies.
EP 38: Agile Agencies and the Importance of Culture, with Andi Graham
On this episode of THRIVE—now sponsored by Workamajig —Kelly chats with Andi Graham, CEO at Big Sea about taking on business partners, transitioning from waterfall to agile development, and the importance of culture on multi-location expansion. Lots of holistic insights and valuable takeaways from this show as Andi shares her story about her growing digital marketing and web development agency based in Florida and Colorado.
EP 37: Applied Empathy for Agencies, with Michael Ventura
On this episode of THRIVE—now sponsored by Workamajig —Kelly talks with Michael Ventura of Sub Rosa about his new book, Applied Empathy, and its extension of Q&E Cards to foster deeper conversation. They discuss how an empathetic approach to problem-solving creates the most effective outcomes for clients, as well as how his agency’s culture is rooted in understanding human behavior at every level.
EP 36: Relaunching Your Agency Website, with Christina Hagopian
On this episode of THRIVE—sponsored by Workamajig —Kelly is joined by Christina Hagopian, President and Creative Director of Hagopian Ink in a candid discussion about her experience in overhauling her own agency’s website. They talk about making yourself a client, her lessons and takeaways from the process, and advice for other agency leaders planning to redesign their site in 2019.
EP 35: Alternative Agency Partnership Models, with Patrick Smith
On this episode of THRIVE—now sponsored by Workamajig —Kelly explores unique and alternative partnership models for agencies with Patrick Smith of C2 Creative Studio in Chicago. Patrick shares his story and experience in creating partnerships that add value without adding overhead in order to produce the best work and results for clients.
EP 34: How to Disqualify Agency Prospects, with Dave Fischer
On this episode of THRIVE—sponsored by Workamajig —Kelly talks with sales coach Dave Fischer about how and why agency leaders should disqualify prospects during their business development process. Dave shares great tips and insights as to how to navigate early discussions with potential clients for your agency.
EP 33: Sales Openers vs. Closers for Agencies, with Dan Morris
On this episode of THRIVE—sponsored by Workamajig —Kelly and Dan Morris of Mindracer Consulting talk about the “sales opener” mindset for business development at creative, media and technology agencies. They go in-depth on why and how to pair a strong opener with an established closer to seal more ideal deals.
EP 32: Better Presentations for Winning New Business, with Pat Quinn
On this episode of THRIVE—sponsored by Workamajig—Kelly’s joined by presentation coach, Pat Quinn, as they cover how speakers can effectively communicate their message for the greatest impact. Pat shares some best practices—how to train your audience (prospects), set momentum and gain clarity for executing the perfect pitch.
EP 31: Top 3 Contractual Gaps for Agencies, with Sharon Toerek
On this episode of THRIVE—sponsored by Workamajig—Kelly talks with Sharon Toerek of Legal + Creative, an IP and marketing law firm for agencies. They dive into MSAs versus short-form Terms & Conditions, Independent Contractor Agreements, and Digital Influencer Agreements for liability protection and FCC compliance.
EP 30: The Power of Positioning, with David C. Baker
On this episode of THRIVE—sponsored by Workamajig —Kelly and David C. Baker talk about their shared favorite topic: agency positioning. They discuss the holistic foundation and myriad benefits of strong positioning for creatives within the context of David’s latest book, The Business of Expertise: How Entrepreneurial Experts Convert Insight Into Impact + Wealth, available at www.expertise.is.
EP 29: Righting Client Relationships, with Jodi Katz
On this episode of THRIVE—now sponsored by Workamajig —Kelly chats with Jodi Katz of Base Beauty Creative Agency about righting a pivotal client relationship and how that changed her view on everything. They dive into mutual accountability, being open to feedback, and having empathy to understand one another’s underlying human needs.
EP 28: Demystifying Profitability, with Ryan Watson
On this episode of THRIVE—sponsored by Workamajig —Kelly demystifyies profitability with her guest Ryan Watson, Founder of Upsourced Accounting, a financial firm exclusively for creative agencies. They talk about all of the levers needed to move margin in the right direction, as opposed to focusing on lagging indicators.
EP 27: Onboarding Clients for Mutual Success, with Sara Bacon
On this episode of THRIVE—sponsored by Workamajig —Kelly chats with Sara Bacon, CEO of Command C, an e-commerce and conversion optimization agency. They dive into the importance of proper onboarding for project success and share a few best practices, as well as discuss setting up a mutually respectful relationship between agency and client.
EP 26: Self-Leadership Changes Agencies, with Scott Jeffrey
On this episode of THRIVE—now sponsored by Workamajig —Kelly talks with Scott Jeffrey about internal development and self-awareness practices and for agency owners. They discuss how the thoughts and behaviors of leaders impact agency culture, communication and more. Get ready for a great discussion on self-actualization, specifically for agency leaders!
EP 25: Immediate Conversations, Not Forms, with Dan Murphy
On this episode of THRIVE—sponsored by Workamajig —Kelly talks with Dan Murphy of Drift about getting to meaningful interactions with prospects faster in order to increase sales. They discuss how live chat and AI-based web technology can qualify prospective clients on your site and send them through the correct funnel. If you’re interested in converting more warm prospects, check out drift.com/thrive.